PWO - Why don't they ask the QB or Linemen to "earn" a spot???? WTF ???? Tell the QB that you will scholarship him if he "earns it" (no interceptions please) ...... Why do they think that they can abuse snappers and kickers in such a manner? So many football programs have a HUGE need for a quality snapper or kicker but these coaches pull the "earn it" card....... How about they tie their salary to the guy they scholarship and ends up being a dud????? How about the University PWO's the coaches????? I see the D2 coaches trying so much harder to fill their spot, going so much farther than D1 guys. One FCS coach has a horrible kicker and wants 3 kickers to come in and "fight for " the spot as PWO while he drops a 100% scholarship on a lineman. Who in their right mind is going to come in and pay? To boot he will "give you something" but not 100% in year 2 if you are the "guy". The sad part is that they will get someone to bite, and the result is the team will bite. Snappers and kickers are a Crucial part of winning but we are not being treated that way. We need a new hashtag: #PWOthe coaches #notoPWOingsnappers #notoPWOingKickers
Tester
Nov 15, 2019
Discussion
First of all, in my opinion/experience, if they don’t give you a full scholarship it means that they don’t believe in you. They give other positions scholarships and the guys end up sitting and not playing. Why don’t they tell all the QB’s to prove themselves and then maybe they will give some money next year, not happening. Somehow it is OK to crap on the specialists. That is just my opinion. Back to the meat of this topic, when to say NO to a scholarship. Before I get to the answer let it be known that not all kids have the same financial situation or geographical situation which play into decisions families make. If Pop’s has $$$ then a lot of what I have to say may not apply. Ok, with the new transfer rules, if you get ANY amount of $$$$ (read $1.00) scholarship from a school you can not play for another team in the same division (ex D1 to D1) without sitting out a year. So if the new coach says that you’re the greatest thing since sliced bread and gives you 0$ scholarship [PWO] , you can leave and immediately play for another team next fall (once you find out that you ain’t his guy next fall). If the coach gave your family ANY amount of $$$, your screwed and HAVE to STAY and PAY. If you feel you were lied to or 100% know that you are not getting a full ride scholarship (be realistic, if you not good no one will give you a full ride in D1), put yourself into the portal ASAP after the season is over. D2 schools do give full rides. In the world of specialists, you are treated like dirt (scholarship wise) so keep your options OPEN. Don’t put yourself into a position to miss playing a year because a coach verbally said “you’re my guy, next year”. Means nothing without the $$$ paperwork. NOTHING. There are exceptions to this and some coaches keep their word but they are far and few. The higher the division, D1 especially, the more you need to protect yourself. Just to repeat myself, not every specialist has the same circumstances and/or goals so if the above doesn’t fit your unique situation, do what fits your requirements. Good Luck
Man, you are hitting all aspects of this recruiting business! The issue you've identified is simply amplified when it comes to specialists. They typically only scholarship one kicker, punter, and snapper at a time; however, they still want to have depth and competition. The specialists are the only positions on the team where the coaches try to build actual depth (that could actually see game time) through PWOs. Unfortunately, I think some coaches exaggerate the possibility of earning a scholarship later on. He should be very clear; or the potential PWO ought to ask the right questions to see if any specialists have actually become scholarship players and to discover when the scholarship will be awarded should he win the starting job. Some of these schools have a very high number of walk-ons, as you may be noticing.
What is your situation at the moment?
This is becoming a Joke.......... How many schools have said to us upfront......"WE love you!!!!! You're the BEST...... We are going to ask (as many as they can sucker in) guys to compete. If you win the spot (no exact measurables given) then we'll give you a scholarship (1% or 100% they will not tell you) NEXT year" So what they are REALLY saying (one school wants 6 guys) is that 6 Families have to pay 100% of the costs with NO FAMILY guaranteed a 100% scholarship in year 2................... WTF???????? MEANWHILE DL & OL guys are getting full rides by the boatload of which many may never see the field.......... New hashtag #nomoreKPSPWO or #PWOtheCOACHsalary I do notice that the D2 schools are much more upfront on $$$ and what their intentions with you are.......